Nepoznaná História

Kôň bol zdobený nielen na LOSA ,ale aj na KOZOROŽCA- veľmiuctievaného zvera.Z jeho rohov boli stavané luky.




Kozorožec a jeleň/LOS kresba tetovania -Pazirik

Rekonštrukcia hlavy (podľa lebky, asi Gumeljov ) SKILUR- vodca SKÍTOV




SKITO - DÁCKE hlavy

SAKOVIA na reliéfoch PERSPOLISA a nad nimi slnečné svastiky…




a toto z archeologických vykopávok Moršanského rajona vyzeraá ako H(G)RIVNA čo držai v rukách…

No prosím republika SAKHA má svoje THE SIBERIAN TIMES

siberiantimes.com/search/?text=Republic%20of%20Sakha&tag=1

A toto je stránka ,ktorá najprehľadnejšie zobrazuje -a to doslova- aj pekne výtvarne archeologické nálezy všetkých doteraz nájdených kultúr v mohyliach Sibíry. (myslím, že už som ju na st.R. dal)

Pod článkom sú odkazy na samostatne rozpracované kapitoli o každej kultúre zvlášť.

history.novosibdom.ru/node/24

Opravené, môžte prispievať....

Aj turci, ako súčasť "slovano/árijského " sveta bojujú o odkaz SAKA-SKÍTOV-ako o "svojich"predkov

tarihvearkeoloji.blogspot.sk/2015/02/scy...-turanian-turks.html

Dušan sorry ale to sú dobré pan turanské keci. Celé turanské drísty sú vymyslom Britskej propagandy ,ktorá mala z Turkov urobiť odlišný národ a vytvoriť im falošnú históriu aby sa mohli stať kolóniou Británie. Preto vytvorili panturanizmus ku ktorému sa dnes hlásia už aj Maďari. V podstate všetky tieto nacionalistické výmysly len slúžia kde akej propagande podľa potreby. Aj Slováci keď je treba sú hrdí európania, predstavitelia západnej katolíckej kultúry a keď je treba sú slovania podľa toho kto platí politikom a médiám.

aj "Turci minulosti" boli pôvodom "Slovania", podobne ako predkovia "Magyriens"...

Pravdupovediac som text ani nečítal-len obrázky pozrel.Mal som pocit, že to nestojí za to... Kvôli obrázkom som to aj postol-a kvôli postoju Turkov.

tu je niečo o pan turanizme od f The Circle of Ancient Iranian Studies
www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Iran/pan_turkism_...zarbaijan/part_i.htm

What is pan-Turanianism? Simply put, pan-Turanianism is an ideology that aims at creating a Turkic super state stretching from the Balkans in Europe, eastwards across Turkey, Iran (Persia), the Caucasus, Central Asia up to and including northwest China (see map below):

The logic behind this is that all people who speak Turkish must be incorporated into this Turkic super state (see also Atabaki, 2001, Landau, 1995, Zenkovsky 1960 and Lewis, 1962 in References).

Hungarian pan-Turanianist activists go even further. They have proposed that the entire Eurasian landmass between Hungary and Norway in Europe to Japan and Korea was once an empire known as “Turania”. Apart from non-scholastic websites, no linguistic, anthropological and archeological evidence for such an empire exists. Pan-Turanian racialists and historians would beg to differ. They are impervious to logical explanations even in the face of hard evidence. Such is the case of all who are infected with the virulent virus of racialism (see C. Richards, 1997 and J. Searle-White, 2001 in References).

Pan-Turanianism, like Nazi “racial sciences”, or Stalinist “History”, has failed to convince the majority of western scholarship to its cause, and has been as equally unsuccessful in Eastern Europe, with the exception of Hungary and the Republic of Azerbaijan.

Much of pan-Turanian ideology is similar to pan-Germanic racism and Nazism; philosophies from which the Grey Wolves and pan-Turanian ideologues have drawn much of their inspiration (see Parts III & IV). Like the Nazis in the 1930s and 1940s, the pan Turanian Turks envision their Turan super-state (like the Nazi “Germania”), in terms of “lebensraum” (German for “living space”) for all Turkic speaking peoples. The late president of the Republic of Azerbaijan, Abulfazl Elchibey (1938-2000), a Grey Wolf sympathizer himself (see Part II, item 4), is reputed to have stated that “…the road to Turkistan runs through Tabriz”. Tabriz has been an integral part of Persia for thousands of years



Pan-Turanianism is perhaps one of the last racialist movements that first began in the 19th century. Traditional history cites its early origins amongst Ottoman officers and intelligentsia studying and residing in 1870s Imperial Germany. The fact that many Ottoman Turkish officials were becoming aware of their sense of “Turkishness” is beyond doubt of course, and the role of subsequent nationalists, such as Ziya Gokalp (see Part II, item 7a) is fully established historically.



What is far less known (or acknowledged) is the role of foreign (non-Turkish) interests in the manipulation of the Turks to service wider geopolitical interests. It is truly an irony that the idea of a Turanian empire never originated amongst the Ottoman Turks, but by a man of European descent. His name was Arminius (Hermann) Vambery (1832-1913), a Hungarian Professor, philologist and traveler who worked an as advisor to the Ottoman Sultan between 1857-1863 (see Vambery in Ottoman dress at left – European attire at right):

Vambery was in the employ of Lord Palmerston of the British Foreign office. It was during his tenure at the Sultan’s court when Vambery first made mention of the fiction of a pan-Turanian superstate to his Turkish hosts in Istanbul:



"…they (the Turks) could form a political entity stretching from the Altai Mountains in Eastern Asia to the Bosphorus…"

[Paksoy, H.B., ‘Basmachi’: TurkestanNational Liberation Movement 1916-1930s. In

Modern Encyclopedia of Religions in Russia and the Soviet Union, Florida: Academic International Press, 1991, Vol. 4].



Vambery’s thesis was based on the observation that as much of Central Asia used Turkic languages as their main vernacular (except Persian speaking Tajikestan), this then necessitated the formation of “Turan”.

It has been speculated that Vambery’s mission was to create an anti-Slavic racialist movement among the Turks that would divert the Russians from the “Great Game” which they were playing against Britain in Persia and Central Asia (see also S. A. Zenkovsky in References).



Vambery retired as a professor of eastern languages at the University of Budapest between 1865-1905. He wrote many books on his travels to Turkey, Armenia, Persia and Central Asia. His expertise on languages and ethnology served the British Foreign Office very well indeed: a racialist idea was formed that would allow for the European manipulation of the Turks for a very long time to come.



Equally as interesting is the role played by Wilfred Blunt, known by some as the “great-grandfather” of pan-Arabism (of the later Cairo Office of British Intelligence), who was also one of the first to advocate a “Young Turk” movement. The Blunts are reputed to have been the founders of the Bank of England. Arnold J. Toynbee’s report to British intelligence regarding the Young Turk movement is also revealing (see Toynbee in References).



Just as pan-Turanianism was invented, British intelligence was plotting to disintegrate the Ottoman Empire by encouraging break away movements among its many nationalities. Although not generally reported, the British Empire had wanted to appropriate Turkish oil assets in Mesopotamia for at least a decade before the First World War (see William Engdahl in References).



The Ottoman Empire was one of the major geopolitical obstacles to the intended projection of British military, political and economic primacy into the Persian Gulf. The other “obstacle” was (and potentially is) Persia, present-day Iran.