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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 11:06 #5714

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Maš s toho srandu,vidim. Za každu cenu nemusiš debatovať. V Madarsku je zdvihnuta vlna nacionalizmu, asi, madari vypisuju tie kliky haky ostošesť.
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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 11:41 #5715


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Veď práve, preto je to sranda.Nestojí to za debatu.A už vôbec nie od niekoho, kto chce písať knihu o histérii.O tej pravdepodobne pravdivej...
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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 14:38 #5717

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S tebou je to jak na funuse. TY odkial vieš čo je pravda? Zisťoval si o tom staromaďarskom písme niečo? JA o tom neviem nič a preto sa pýtam.. Ak nevieš, tak nevieš, nič sa nedeje. Ale tisíce ludí a možno ešte viac, tam dole na juhu tomu verí. Aj tomu že Trianon bol voči Maďarom nespravodlivý a podobne. Najhoršie že po turuloch sa na Južnom Slovensku začínajú objavovať aj tieto nápisy. A bájku okolo Turula poznáš? Mal by si, pre Slovákov je to dosť dôležité. Ale kludne kašli na to a venuj sa Vandalom, najväčším zo slovenov.
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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 15:06 #5718


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Môže to byť zaujímavé z toho podozrivé pohľadu, keďže s tým vyrukovali až teraz a nie už za Hortyho fašizoidného Magyáru.
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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 17:28 #5719


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Myslíte toto?

www.omniglot.com/writing/hungarian_runes.htm

linearpopulationmodel.blogspot.sk/2014/0...uropean-writing.html

"Maďarské" "rovás" runy


hngrnrunes.gif


Vinca runy

vinca2.gif


Vincan_symbols.jpg



fénické

alphabet_phoenician.GIF


etruské a iné
www.sunnyway.com/runes/origins.html

Tie runy sú celkom podobné. Neviem prečo ich niekto nazýva maďarské keď vychádzajú z rún ktoré sa bežne používali v európe ešte prúed tzv. príchodom maďarov. Zaujímavé že slovania nesmožu voalť nič čo bolo pred 6 str. slovanské ale Maďari si môžu nárokovať runy ktoré sa v európe vyskytovali dávno pred nimi.
Inak maďarské a etruské číslice sú rovnaké


ld Hungarian letters were usually written from right to left on sticks. Later, in Transylvania, they appeared on several media. Writings on walls also were right to left and not boustrophedon style (alternating direction right to left and then left to right).



Hungarian numerals
The numbers are almost the same as the Roman, Etruscan, and Chuvash numerals. Numbers of livestock were carved on tally sticks and the sticks were then cut in two lengthwise to avoid later disputes.

Ligatures are common. (Note: the Hungarian runic script employed a number of ligatures. In some cases, an entire word was written with a single sign.)
There are no lower or upper case letters, but the first letter of a proper name was often written a bit larger.
The writing system did not always mark vowels. The rules for vowel inclusion were as follows:
If there are two vowels side by side, both have to be written, unless the second could be readily determined.
The vowels have to be written if their omission created ambiguity. (Example: krk – K (rovásbetű).svgR (rovásbetű) JB.svgK (rovásbetű).svg can be interpreted as kerék – K (rovásbetű).svgE (rovásbetű) JB.svgR (rovásbetű) JB.svgÉ (rovásbetű) JB.svgK (rovásbetű).svg [wheel] and kerek – K (rovásbetű).svgE (rovásbetű) JB.svgR (rovásbetű) JB.svgE (rovásbetű) JB.svgK (rovásbetű).svg [rounded], thus the writer had to include the vowels to differentiate the intended words.)
The vowel at the end of the word must be written.
Sometimes, especially when writing consonant clusters, a consonant was omitted. This is however rather a phonologic process, the script reflecting the exact surface realization.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Hungarian_alphabet

je to na spodku


books.google.sk/books?id=TyK8azCqC34C&pg...0is%20slavic&f=false


Tu sa niekto snaží dokázať že rovás runy sa stali základom pre hlaholiku.


toto je tiež zaujímavé ale strasne dlhé
bialczynski.wordpress.com/tag/slavic-runes/



Toto je tiež dôležité a síce že "maďarské runy" niesú správny názov ale treba ich volať rovás písmo, abeceda. Práve preto že im to nesedí s prvým maďarským písmom ktoré oficiálne pochádza vraj z 10 str. a je písané latinkou. To by bol dobrý námet pre fomenka aby odkontroloval túto pamiatku a text či vedecky matematicky sedí do 10 str. Som si istý že nie.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_Sermon_and_Prayer

ked sa pozriete na tú transkripciu je to zaujímavé to znie ako riadne skomolená slovančina miešaná s hlúpostami. Metod by sa na to mohol bližšie pozrieť.
Sermo ſup ſepulchrum. Latiatuc feleym zumtuchel
mic vogmuc. yſa pur eſ chomuv uogmuc. Menyi miloſtben
terumteve eleve miv iſemucut adamut. eſ odutta vola neki
paradiſumut hazoa. Eſ mend paradiſumben uolov gimilcictul
munda neki elnie. Heon tilutoa wt ig fa gimilce tvl. Ge
mundoa neki meret nu[m] eneyc. yſa ki nopun emdul oz gimilſ
twl. halalnec halalaal holz. Hadlaua choltat terumteve iſten
tul. ge feledeve. Engede urdung intetvinec. eſ evec oz tiluvt
gimilſtwl. es oz gimilſben halalut evec. Eſ oz gimilſnek vvl
keſeruv uola vize. hug turchucat mige zocoztia vola.
Num heon muga nec. ge mend w foianec halalut evec.
Horogu vec iſten. eſ veteve wt ez muncaſ vilagbele. eſ levn
halalnec eſ poculnec feze. eſ mend w nemenec. Kic ozvc.
miv vogmuc. Hog eſ tiv latiatuv ſzumtuchel. iſa eſ num
igg ember mulchotia ez vermut. yſa mend ozchuz iarov
vogmuc. Wimagguc uromv iſten kegilmet ez lelic ert. hug
iorgoſſun w neki. eſ kegiggen, eſ bulſassa mend w bunet.
Eſ vimagguc ſzen achſcin mariat. eſ bovdug michael archangelt.
eſ mend angelcut. hug uimaggonoc erette. Eſ uimagguc
ſzent peter urot. kinec odut hotolm ovdonia. eſ ketnie.
hug ovga mend w bunet. Eſ vimagguc mend ſzentucut.
hug legenec neki ſeged uromc ſcine eleut. hug iſten iv ui-
madſagucmia bulſaſſa w bunet. Eſ zoboducha wt urdung
ildetuitvl. eſ pucul kinzotviatwl. eſ vezeſſe wt paradiſu[m]
nugulmabeli. eſ oggun neki munhi uruzagbele utot. eſ
mend iovben rezet. Eſ keaſſatuc uromchuz charmul. Kir[ie e]l[eison].
The prayer[edit]
Scerelmes bratym uimagg(om)uc ez ſcegin ember lilki ert.
kit vr ez nopun ez homuſ világ timnucebelevl mente.
kinec ez nopun teſtet tumetivc. hug ur uvt kegilmehel
abraam. yſaac. iacob. kebeleben belhezie: hug birſagnop
ivtva mend vv ſcentii ef unuttei cuzicun iov
felevl iochtotnia ilezie vvt. Eſ tivbennetuc. clamate iii. k[yrie eleison].

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funeral_Sermon_and..._and_prayer_OSZK.jpg


Vraj treba Karpatskú "rovás" abecedu počítat k k székeli Maďarom lebo ich príbznosť v roku 1932 dokázal trukológ Németh.

Note, that the close relation between the Carpathian Basin Rovas and the Szekely-Hungarian Rovas was proven by linguist and Turkologist Gyula Németh as early as in 1932

Je to na smiech hlavne tá mapa, všetky slovanské okolité národy majú meno pre rovášsku abecedu a oni tvrdia že pochdáza od székeli magyarov a má spolčoné znaky so severskou germánskou, anglickou etruskou.
Majú toho zasa veľa na rováši čo?


upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6...uropa_Polyglotta.jpg

A tu sa pozrite na mapu dal by som ruku do ohňa za to že tam niekto dopisoval tie jazyky neskôr. Veď sa pozrite na to rozdelenie územia, HVngaria patrí ku slovanským národom ešte je tam napísané ILLIRI CO SLAVONICA a je to farebne oddelené od ostatného územia.


a k tomuto patrí aj toto.


Russian inscription on the gods of Egypt and Israel

Academician V.A. Chudinov

Fig. 1. Letters protokirillitsy on Egyptian hieroglyphics (Figure from book V. Chudinov, "The Universe of Russian literature to Cyril with. 264-271), I have long suspected that, as the Egyptians and Israelis have settled in antiquity in the ancient Rousseau and included in their culture. So, I tried to show that between certain Egyptian and Russian words have similarities, and Egyptian hieroglyphs protokirillitsy contain letters, Rice.

But now I'm interested in images of the gods of these places. From the perspective of sacred geography, southern Europe and north Africa is Yarov Russ, that is, Russia Yar. Hence, typical of the southern dialect pronunciation Arov Russia, or, "akayuschem" option, Arabia, Arabia. In this Arabia, in addition to the current Arabian Peninsula, and included many adjoining land.

Fig. 2. My reading of inscriptions on the image of Isis Isis. First, consider some of the images of the gods of Egypt. It is widely known image of the goddess Isis, Fig. 2. At first glance, her absolutely should not be a Russian label, but they are available. First, I read the inscription on the pedestal - protokirillovskuyu inscription Yar runichnuyu inscription Isis and mixed inscription naked. The first word indicates the location of Isis, Yarov Russia, the second - the name of the goddess, the third - the state of her clothing and her torso is really naked. At its crown, under the horns, read the word gently. Here we read the words: spring Russ and MAKOZHI LIC. Last label solely interested in: under the Egyptian Isis, therefore, understood Russian goddess Mokos.

A number of labels can be read on the shoulders of statues. Here are inscribed the words: WORKSHOP MAKOZHI (hence, the sculpture was made not by the Egyptians, and the Russian masters), Isis Jara (ie, Isis Spring Rus), LIC MAKOZHI and spring RUSSIA. So, we - the Russian product on the Egyptian scene.

Fig. 3. Image of Queen Hatshepsut Queen Hatshepsut. Very interesting picture of the Great Queen Hatshepsut "(1, pp. 33, fig. 7). When it was made an expedition to the country of Punt, which by Ivan V. Tashkinov understands Colchis (1, pp. 35). At its very large crown of Upper Egypt can read the inscription and the CHURCH Makazhoy Yar RUSSIA. Consequently, and this image was made Russian craftsmen in the Spring of Russia studio temple Mokos.

But in fact the entire small book IV Tashkinova (84.) Devoted to proving the connection of culture of Egypt and Russia. In its conclusion, he writes: "A review of Archaeology of Egypt and the territory of the Black Sea was not only confirmed the probability of migration of highly Eneolithic Indo-European tribes in the region of North Africa, but also a connection of archaeological cultures of Egypt and the Black Sea" (1, pp. 79).

Fig. 4. Image of Pharaoh Ramses III, and my reading of the inscriptions of Pharaoh Ramses III. We can also consider the pedestal of the monument of Pharaoh Ramses III (1185-1153 BC) in Karnak (2, pp. 101). Over the right foot can see the inscription Yar, which means RUSSIA Yar. And in the lower right edge of the base of the statue read the words Yar RUS, RUS, where the word is fulfilled runitsey. Thus, little doubt that this area was called SPRING Rus, no.

In the center of the base reads expression CHURCH KIND. I understand that beneath the Temple of the genus understood x frames Pharaoh. Another similar inscription reads on the top of the rectangular columns, the image that I drew in color. And right at the top of the stand is difficult to read the inscription, which I take to the floor PHARAOH (the second A is inscribed upside down). Underneath is the inscription, which contains two words and the word FLEECE KIND. Indeed, all read the words (except words RUS) written protokirillitsey or runes KIND. CHURCH KIND words written in the center of the base at the lower edge.

Over the left foot on the sections of the wall has an inscription in small letters, well-read in reverse color. Here are written the words WORKSHOP MARY. The reader should be clear why Mary. Mara was the goddess of sickness and death, and the monuments erected are already dead pharaohs. MARA word can be read side by side in inverted color. A live color read another inscription Yar RUSSIA.

Fig. 5. The goddess Hathor, goddess Hathor from the Sinai in the Sinai. Moving from Egypt to the north, the Sinai Peninsula, we can see the image of the goddess Hathor in the town of el-Khadem Serabit, carved in the XIV-XIII centuries BC (2, pp. 90). Here are 5 of Semitic letters: b'lt, «Madam" (the feminine in the name of Baal, "lord"), appeal to the goddess Hathor in the temple where the statue was found. It is assumed that the inscription left by miners-Semites, mining copper and turquoise mines in the Egyptian Sinai. However, here there and Russian inscriptions. So, in a rectangular frame you can read the words SPRING RUSS, and on the forehead - the words TEMPLE SPRING JNA MARIA. So that the temple was originally intended not Hathor, as Yar as the goddess herself was understood as a young Virgin Mary.

In the lower left corner of the sculpture in reverse color you can read the word STUDIO and under it in the direct color - the word CHURCH Makazhoy.

Fig. 6. Head Canaanite cult statues, and my reading of the inscriptions head Canaanite cult statues. In a private collection from one of the residents of Israel is a cult statue (2, p. 19.). It is not attributed, but by default it is assumed that this is - one of the Israeli goddesses. I first read the labels in frames, and convinced that we face - spring RUSSIA.

The inscription on the upper eyelid of the left eye suggests that before us - MASK LIKA, ie, the attribute priestess, she wore before her. But whose face? The answer to this question is read on the lower eyelid of the same eyes - Makazhoy.

Thus, the Israeli gods, this mask is irrelevant. Combinations of words MASK LIKA Makazhoy can be found in several other places, such as the forehead or nose. And on the chin in reverse color you can read the words: WORKSHOP Makazhoy.

Fig. 7. Clay iconic mask of Hazor, and my reading of the inscriptions Clay iconic mask from Hazor. The only fortified city destroyed by Joshua in Galilee, was Hazor (Hazor). Its location was established in 1926 - he is in the Tel el-Keda, ten miles north of the Sea of Galilee. With its excavation was found clay cult mask, presumably of the XIV century BC, Fig. 7 (2, pp. 122). The left over his right eye can read the word MASK Mary, in other words, Masks of Mary.

Fragment on the cheek under his right eye, I am giving a larger view. It is possible to read words: spring RUSSIA. Thus, in the territory of Russia was part of Spring and the Galilee. In addition, here to read the words MARY MASK, confirming the previous reading.

Thus, we have obtained important information: the cult of the Virgin Mary was formed in the second millennium BC, and by its attributes, that is, by the presence of the mask, which was of a priestess of Mary, it does not differ from the standard pagan (vedichskih) cults. Confirmed my assumption of the existence of mariinstva.

Fig. 8. Lion from the Lion of Hazor Hazor. In the same temple at Hazor can see a picture of a lion on a plate XIV century BC, Fig. 8 (2, pp. 120). The body surface is covered with pictures of small incisions, which can be read, if you rotate the magnified image by 90 ° to the right (that is, if you place the lion's jaws vertically down). Then you can read on this surface a series of words.

Reading I start with an image back of a lion, which is when you turn the upper fragment. Here you can find the words Yar Rus and Makazhoy Temple. The first phrase conveys the name was very well familiar to us, the second - as I believe, the place of an image, because lion refers to the works of religious art, which is the responsibility temple Mokos (lion was zoomorphic alter ego of the god Rod). In other words, it does not address the installation plate.

Fig. 4. Image of Pharaoh Ramses III, and my reading of the inscriptions of Pharaoh Ramses III. We can also consider the pedestal of the monument of Pharaoh Ramses III (1185-1153 BC) in Karnak (2, pp. 101). Over the right foot can see the inscription Yar, which means RUSSIA Yar. And in the lower right edge of the base of the statue read the words Yar RUS, RUS, where the word is fulfilled runitsey. Thus, little doubt that this area was called SPRING Rus, no.

In the center of the base reads expression CHURCH KIND. I understand that beneath the Temple of the genus understood x frames Pharaoh. Another similar inscription reads on the top of the rectangular columns, the image that I drew in color. And right at the top of the stand is difficult to read the inscription, which I take to the floor PHARAOH (the second A is inscribed upside down). Underneath is the inscription, which contains two words and the word FLEECE KIND. Indeed, all read the words (except words RUS) written protokirillitsey or runes KIND. CHURCH KIND words written in the center of the base at the lower edge.

Over the left foot on the sections of the wall has an inscription in small letters, well-read in reverse color. Here are written the words WORKSHOP MARY. The reader should be clear why Mary. Mara was the goddess of sickness and death, and the monuments erected are already dead pharaohs. MARA word can be read side by side in inverted color. A live color read another inscription Yar RUSSIA.

Fig. 5. The goddess Hathor, goddess Hathor from the Sinai in the Sinai. Moving from Egypt to the north, the Sinai Peninsula, we can see the image of the goddess Hathor in the town of el-Khadem Serabit, carved in the XIV-XIII centuries BC (2, pp. 90). Here are 5 of Semitic letters: b'lt, «Madam" (the feminine in the name of Baal, "lord"), appeal to the goddess Hathor in the temple where the statue was found. It is assumed that the inscription left by miners-Semites, mining copper and turquoise mines in the Egyptian Sinai. However, here there and Russian inscriptions. So, in a rectangular frame you can read the words SPRING RUSS, and on the forehead - the words TEMPLE SPRING JNA MARIA. So that the temple was originally intended not Hathor, as Yar as the goddess herself was understood as a young Virgin Mary.

In the lower left corner of the sculpture in reverse color you can read the word STUDIO and under it in the direct color - the word CHURCH Makazhoy.

Fig. 6. Head Canaanite cult statues, and my reading of the inscriptions head Canaanite cult statues. In a private collection from one of the residents of Israel is a cult statue (2, p. 19.). It is not attributed, but by default it is assumed that this is - one of the Israeli goddesses. I first read the labels in frames, and convinced that we face - spring RUSSIA.

The inscription on the upper eyelid of the left eye suggests that before us - MASK LIKA, ie, the attribute priestess, she wore before her. But whose face? The answer to this question is read on the lower eyelid of the same eyes - Makazhoy.

Thus, the Israeli gods, this mask is irrelevant. Combinations of words MASK LIKA Makazhoy can be found in several other places, such as the forehead or nose. And on the chin in reverse color you can read the words: WORKSHOP Makazhoy.

Fig. 7. Clay iconic mask of Hazor, and my reading of the inscriptions Clay iconic mask from Hazor. The only fortified city destroyed by Joshua in Galilee, was Hazor (Hazor). Its location was established in 1926 - he is in the Tel el-Keda, ten miles north of the Sea of Galilee. With its excavation was found clay cult mask, presumably of the XIV century BC, Fig. 7 (2, pp. 122). The left over his right eye can read the word MASK Mary, in other words, Masks of Mary.

Fragment on the cheek under his right eye, I am giving a larger view. It is possible to read words: spring RUSSIA. Thus, in the territory of Russia was part of Spring and the Galilee. In addition, here to read the words MARY MASK, confirming the previous reading.

Thus, we have obtained important information: the cult of the Virgin Mary was formed in the second millennium BC, and by its attributes, that is, by the presence of the mask, which was of a priestess of Mary, it does not differ from the standard pagan (vedichskih) cults. Confirmed my assumption of the existence of mariinstva.


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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 20:42 #5720

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Tak toto je iné kafe.
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Písmo na Slovensku: hlaholské, runové a praveké 09. čen 2014 20:57 #5721


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To nie je iné kafe...to je triviálnosť v našej téme. Ako keby tu o tom neboli popísané celé traktáty..Samozrejme nie o maďaroch - ale o písme, alebo ti to treba naozaj do detajlov ...? Keby to nebolo trápne , bolo by to smiešne a to sa p.Jozef ešte snaží...( smajlík trhajúci si vlasy...)
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Sikulská brána 10. čen 2014 05:08 #5723


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Aj v blízkom Poľsku sú pamiatky so starým "rovášovým" písmom - napr. Sikulská brána v Starom Sonči na Vengerskej (Uhorskej) ulici vedúcej na Slovensko.
Sikuli sú starší ako tzv. Maďari, žijú v Sedmohradsku, obyčajní Sikuli sú si vedomí svojej originality, nechcú mať s Maďarmi (terajšími) veľa spoločného, ale ich "elita" robí práve opak.Platená z istých zdrojov donekonečna bude tvrdiť propagandu, že sú "Uhri" ,predchodcovia či príbuzní Maďarov.
Ťažká téma, vhodná na veľký výskum, je tu možnosť dostať sa cez Sikulov k starším autentickým zdrojom dejín tých pravých Uhrov!!!
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Sikulská brána 10. čen 2014 05:55 #5724

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Dušan, si mily ako vždy,trochu trápny, ale to nevadi. Prežil som horšich.
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Správy zo sveta 10. čen 2014 12:04 #5725


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Máme nového kolegu: na Bialčynského stránke je príspevok Augustina Demetria Pallaresa Lassa: o našom starom písme.
Tento pán rozšifroval písmo z ostrovov Fuerteventura,Lasnzarote a Hierro , patriacich do Kanárskych ostrovov.
Všimnite si postupnosť písma od južného Uralu k Dunaju (Vinca,Lepenski vir) cez Etruskov,Féničanov až do Británie a na Kanárske ostrovy.Aj so šípkami vzájomného spolupôsobenia.
bialczynski.wordpress.com/2014/06/03/a-d...-jezyka-lacinskiego/
Možno poteší niekoho aj to, že Féničania sú vlastne Veneti (Venetiani). Féničanov treba čítať s počiatočným písmenom V, a nie F.
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